Outstanding!!!!

Our live blog was wonderful!!!! Thank you everyone who participated. It is important that all of our opinions be heard! Thank you for your efforts in raising awareness for social justice for sex workers!

Jill Brenneman

27 Responses

  1. Yes! Thank you to everybody who took time to participate! Thanks to all our readers, traffic at the site tonight was or best ever! Thanks to everybody who linked to us from their sites and blogs and encouraged their readers to ‘listen to sex workers.’ This show of support has been fantastic!

  2. It was fabulous being a part of this! Thank you for having it.

    I also want to thank Josie and Jody for their participation- please continue, as these are important issues to discuss! As was said above, ALL of our voices need to be heard.🙂

  3. Yes, thanks to BNG for putting this on and thanks to all who participated, even those of you who don’t necessarily agree with what this blog has to say.

  4. Making the Connections was sponsored
    primarily by Prostitution Research & Education, a
    nonprofit organization whose mission is to reflect
    the voices of prostituted women, to advocate for
    alternatives to prostitution with the ultimate goal
    of abolishing the institution of prostitution.

    American prostitutes are being held in slave like conditions by the poverty pimps who put anything and everything in front of our right to be self determined in our own agency in demanding decriminalization across the board! That would include poverty pimps like the Melissa Farley who profit off the position that advocates for abolishing the institution of prostitution by alleging that all prostitution is forced labor. This paternalistic position is no different from daily acts by city governments like the San Francisco Police Department, District Attorney’s office and the Mayor who directs the funding and sets the priorities where by the city profits off the criminalization of prostitution by arresting and prosecuting us for our own good to force us out of work. Farley’s position is the same as those poverty pimping non-profit agencies who put the harm reduction of HIV in front of our right to work on our own terms. This group, often made up of ex-sex industry workers, profits off the poverty brought on by the criminalization of prostitution by pandering to the public to drink at the trough by perpetuating the lies that prostitutes are vectors of communicable diseases. They are all the same in that they profit off the locked out conditions of prostitutes. Shame on all of them for not standing in solidarity with this erotic laborer who is calling for and taking action on a daily basis to lift the ban on all prostitution now as the priority.

    Farley’s thinking would dictate that prostituted women get to exercise say over my economy. But organized labor principles say that such white plantation owner privilege is ill moral and unethical. Not Melissa Farley, prostituted women or anyone else have neither asked for nor been granted my permission to effect my economy. Anyone who takes any actions to abolish on my industry and effect my economy is ill moral and unethical. That would include arresting customers.

    History teaches us that banning slavery in this country hasn’t eradicated slave wages or work conditions. Women make 73 cents on the dollar. 12 million undocumented workers are disenfranchised from social protections while they pay taxes under threat of deportation. GBLT community members pay first class taxes for second-class citizenship. Millions of Americans are involved in labor equality struggles every day of every week in every town in this country. 160 years post the abolition of slavery finds Black Americans still economically discriminated against and disenfranchised. Abolishing slavery hasn’t ended slave labor in this country. Abolishing prostitution won’t end forced labor in the sex industry. And there is no research to indicate so.

  5. Actually there is research that shows Sweden’s taking the abolitionist approach to prostitution is working to end forced labor in the sex industry. As for where you get the idea that people who help prostitutes exit out of the sex industry when the times comes for them to seek that help for whatever reason “profit” out of it – you sure haven’t seen my budget/financial report for the last 20 years I’ve been helping women get out. I could have bought a house free and clear for what I’ve spent out of my own pocket helping women. I spent at LEAST $12,000 a year helping women and providing support and exit services and MAYBE in a good year bring in $100 in donations. Yeah I’m a real poverty pimp. When the last time you donated anything to help women who are exiting the business with the transitional phase that many go through without any family, friends, organizations, or anyone to help unless they get sexual services in exchange? When’s the last time you delivered Meals on Wheels to AIDS victims who caught it while prostituting or paid their rent while they recovered from being stabbed repeatedly by a john?

  6. excellent effort, BNG!

  7. Could we have live blog parties more often? Seriously.

  8. Yes! There will be more live blog events! It’s so great to hold space with you all despite our geographical and time-zone conflicts!

  9. This was the most fun I’ve had blogging EVER! The many viewpoints were enjoyable and the quality of posts was impressive.

    Thanks BnG for putting this on.

    I second Jessica. We need to do this more often.

    XX

  10. Could somebody fix the formatting on the post “A message to us from Melissa Farley”? The html in the post itself is all messed up, and it not only makes the post itself hard to read, but it messes the page up so badly that responses aren’t even readable.

  11. I think I got the kinks fixed on that post. Sorry about that!

  12. “you sure haven’t seen my budget/financial report for the last 20 years I’ve been helping women get out. I could have bought a house free and clear for what I’ve spent out of my own pocket helping women.”

    Well it is after all, Jody, All about you isn’t it. Your plantation mentality exposed.
    And now you want to engage me on what I’ve done? For who? I can be found at the a picket line any day of the week standing along side those who support my right to negotiate for my wages and work conditions irregardless of the industry I work in. Where I’m treated with respect and dignity as a sister worker. I sign pledges and petitions of support, call and write legislators, I take part in delegations. My efforts along with my brothers and sisters are always rewarded when those labor disputes are settled with the workers demands met. I help sex industry workers on a daily basis, I listen, give supportive feed back, impart my 19 years of experience in the business to new comers, lend out my books on the subject to help folks articulate the state of our condition, made a movie, raise money on a ongoing basis to get actual sex industry workers into labor school so they can gain the tools to stand up and fight for their rights.
    Pitting ex workers abolitionists’ agendas against currently working workers leads this organized erotic labor activist to question; who is benefiting from this argument? Certainly not me or you. Who’s your daddy?

    And FYI, the Swedish model has false reporting because the rest of us have been forced into the underground where we don’t have time for researchers poverty pimping agendas.
    Speaking of which, it sound like you need some help in negotiating for your labor. May I suggest taking a lesson at your nearest picket line. “I spent at LEAST $12,000 a year helping women and providing support and exit services and MAYBE in a good year bring in $100 in donations.”

  13. Jody, I just read you site. It seems you violate the very terms of your own organization.

    10. SWA has no opinion on outside issues, hence the SWA name ought never be drawn into public controversy.
    11. Our public relations policy is based on attraction, rather than promotion, we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio and films.
    12. Anonymity is the spiritual foundation of all our Traditions, ever reminding us to place principles before personalities.
    The anonymous programs are geared towards spiritual growth for people’s problems hence the spiritual practice of anonymity of one’s public opinions. It’s great that you want to help people, but it isn’t attractive to model violating the very principles you pimp by advocating abolition and promoting yourself as an expert witness against workers. Maybe you ought try debtors anonymous. It isn’t progress not perfection?

  14. how come the Erotic Service Providers Union is not included under your sex worker rights catagory. Thank you, Lisa Roellig lisaroellig@gmail.com

  15. “how come the Erotic Service Providers Union is not included under your sex worker rights catagory.”

    It’s been updated. Everybody is welcome to send me additional links for the blog roll, as long as it is relevant to our theme.

    Thanks!

  16. WWW Smack Down! Alligator wrestling. Finally a place where we can agree to disagree and poke sharp sticks in each others eyes to get our pent up anger and point across. Let’s get an action packed chatty chew room going and chew this stuff up into bite size, a Gator Pit. I got issues and I don’t want to “Remain Silent”. xxxMadMadam

  17. Maxine Doogan said..
    “. Abolishing slavery hasn’t ended slave labor in this country. Abolishing prostitution won’t end forced labor in the sex industry.”

    Surely, Maxine, you are not saying we should make slavery legal but maybe with a little collective bargaining to marginally improve the conditions?

    Or are you? I can’t tell exactly what you are on about.

    I CAN tell you that you should climb right down off Jody’s back. She is the real deal – helping women who want out every damn day. You all talk about it and she does the actual work in the belly of the beast, sin city, where the johns are scary and the cops are scarier. So back the fuck off. Spending your days organizing and kissing up to labor leaders, and jabbering on all night about the eventual starting date of the revolution is NOT equivalent to helping a rreal woman pay her rent or keep her kids.

    Where the hell are the priorities around her? You accuse Jody of being “all about me” – talk about the pot and the kettle.

  18. Dear Vegasmadam.

    Poles stuck in eyes is an extremely bad first step in collaboaration.

    You might want to rethink that metaphor.

  19. Jody put herself out there and nobody is faulting her for standing up for what she believes even though she violates her own organization’s code of ethics. Don’t shoot me, I’m only the lowly worker you supposedly care so much about, but only if I need rescuing.
    And your attempt at assassinating my character only shows your lack of sophistication on the issues. Organized labor teaches people to fish and since you are all busy in bed with the police state, that makes you, Jody and Melissa Farley daddy’s girls.
    The least you can do is get some daddy girl pride and admit that you get your rocks off by profiting off the poverty the criminalization and legalization brings the rest of us.
    But I’m sure we can find some common ground. Maybe we could sponsor a mud wrestling contest between you and I. We could fake it like they do on tv and raise money for our respective organizations.

  20. Maxine you rock!!

  21. Maxine, believe me, the police state will be very surprised to find I am in bed with them! 🙂 Hah!

    I have no interest in assignating your character. I don’t even know you. I just think you should cut Jody some slack since she actually does the grunt work of helping real live women who want out of prostitution – something all ya’ll talk about and few of you DO!

    The whole “profiting off the poverty” thing continues to confuse me. It’s like some weird code language you use at a group meeting that I don’t attend. i.e. What the fuck are you talking about?

    And “daddy girl pride” what hell is that? I can only guess that you just need to get out among regular people more, cause I dont’ know what the hell you are talking about.

  22. Some great entries came out of this! Thank you all for putting the event together!

  23. Josie,

    You do not know our real world actions and have very little idea about what we are doing for women in the indsustry. And you seem to have little recognition or willingness to learn from us, women who are in the industry!

    Why don’t *you* get off our backs, and talk about proposals of real world action instead of screaming that we aren’t doing anything? Rest assured, we all are, each in her own way, and we don’t need to flaunt our actions to others because that’s, frankly, a waste of time; time that could be spent changing the dominant paradigm.

  24. Rah Rah Ree Kick em’ in the knee!
    Rah Rah Ras Kick em … in the other knee!
    xxx

  25. You are in bed with the police state but you seem to be the only one in the dark about that.

    Here is one definition of poverty pimp.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_pimp

    It is language that we use to describe the phenomenon by which the policies of criminalization and legalization are bought and paid for by the tax payers, policies created by liars like Farley and Norma Hotaling, enforced by law enforcement agencies who then traffic the arrested workers who’ve been plunged into poverty by being forced out of work, but now must pay Norma Hotaling to attend her mandatory shame based sex negative programs which in turns defrauds everyone by not delivering transitional services.

    Or the other scenario, where by Norma Hotaling in her little group of Farleys and Donna Hughes make up names like ‘ending the demand’ where again the cycle is to get paid via the poverty they’ve created by the policies they’ve hustled to the tax payers, get the police, who get to negotiate for their wages and work conditions in collective bargaining, to extort money out of customers pockets, our economy, which has the effects of forcing the transaction, our work conditions, into further darkness which is to effect workers’ condition without our permission. This is ill moral and unethical and you don’t have our permission.

    In legalized prostitution, the state and the business owners have all the say. They make up rules for the workers. I remember when the Netherlands came up with their rules back in 2000. It wasn’t going to work because it was top down organizing. That’s when people who have more power than the worker dictate to the worker what their labor is worth and conditions will be.

    In the example given by the link, Walmart is the identified poverty pimp. You know that Walmart settlement is one of the largest class action lawsuit and paid out millions to their female workers, many in management for sexual discrimination.

    When you and Jody speak out against an industry you don’t work in, you too are acting on behalf of and become the poverty pimps. Jody profits in her publicity and you, Josie, you obviously enjoy bashing actual workers. Not only through your tone but also through your choice of vulgar language you have used with me and others on this blogg.
    When you wrote …I can only guess that you just need to get out among regular people more, cause I dont’ know what the hell you are talking about”, You make me responsible for you ignorance and disparage my condition by associating it with not being regular. You in effect ghettoize my position by passing judgment against the company I keep as not being regular and therefore having some distorted effect on my view of life. This statement reveals your self centeredness in that you have domain over what regular people do and the authority to compair me to it. This is the point at which you are the abuse you claim you want to rescue us from. Some how you justify speaking to me in this manner. The reality is that speak like the lily white supremacist plantation owner you are.

  26. Maxine, that was beautiful. Thank you.

  27. “regular people??” as opposed to..?

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